“If we have a choice between sin and good how can i choose what is right because when im like this i always seem to choose wrong, in other words what do i say to myself at that time?”
Instead of looking for the right words of truth to repeat like a mantra at these times, why not continue by asking the next obvious question: Who can deliver me from this dilemma? You see, it’s not a technique, a method, or even protective Bible verses … it’s Christ himself who is the answer to your dilemma. And in him you will discover that your dilemma has its existence in the realm in which we no longer live. You are dead to that realm, but as long as you keep imagining yourself to still live there you will live as if it is still true.
Guilt is connected to the realm of sin and death and is stirred up by law. And yes, God works all things for our good, for he has made it so that guilt will wear you out until your heart finally cries out for true freedom. :)
This reality is certainly connected to the living analogy Paul gave back in 55 AD:
Romans 7:24 — What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?
Jim we have been talking about the wrath of God as of late and how this has been used to eclipse the very realities of the Lord that came to pass in Christ for those who are called according to His purpose. I just stand in wonder at how easily we are thrown off by the words of those who do not know Christ according to the Spirit but only after the fleshly mind. They would completely ignore the very realities of God while mentioning His name repeatedly! They would read Bible verses and sing His praises and give “Him” tithes and yet not even know HIM nor preach HIM. It makes us ask then, “how CAN we know Him then”?. Again I submit that we have been thrown off by the appeal to understand God according to the natural mind by those that may not even know God.I have found this to be the general rule rather than not.
How can we know Him then? I wonder how many of our listeners have been berating themselves because of the … seemingly obvious conflicts in their lives, conflicts that keeps that question repeating itself on some kind of a regular basis. Maybe that’s why Paul made sure to add this statement near the end of his letter: “Now I urge you, brethren, keep your eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances contrary to the teaching which you learned, and turn away from them. For such men are slaves, not of our Lord Christ but of their own appetites; and by their smooth and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of the unsuspecting.” Romans 16:17-18
I want you to pay close attention to something here. You see, I’m well aware that many of you have been warned not to listen to people like us because we are the ones who desire to lead you astray with our perverted message. I mean, how do you know that Adam and I are not the very ones Paul wrote about, who by our smooth and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the unsuspecting? Then again, when you listen to us, would you describe yourself as one who is unsuspecting? Something tells me that most who have read my writings over the years or who now listen to these audios have taken a rather cautious approach to what’s being said. “…deceive the hearts of the unsuspecting?” I seriously doubt that our audience — you — would be described as unsuspecting. I think that although most of you hope the good news of Jesus Christ could be as good as we say it is, you’ve still got your guard up. And why not …it sounds a little over the edge, doesn’t it? After all, what we’re proposing does seem to support the accusation made against people like us who supposedly teach that grace makes it okay to sin — or put another way: “Let us do evil that good may come.” Which is what was often said about Paul.
If there is an audience that fits the description of unsuspecting, it would be those who take every word of their pastor or teacher as final. And many of you who are listening right now have been there. The fact that you are listening to this audio suggests that you’ve seen something of the emptiness of the fleshly, religious mind. You’ve seen where that road leads … and you don’t know if you want to keep traveling down it anymore. And if you are offended by the suggestion that your church or your pastor or your teacher might not even know God, it should cause you to realize how unsuspecting you might be.
Christ the “port hole” of knowledge. Not entered into by the mind of man. Who has known the mind of the Lord?
Example: Sovereignty of God can not be seen nor measured nor calculated by the mind of man. Why do we try? Not only are lured into trying we are even pushed into it by our leaders! Why can’t God just be God?
But Adam, inquiring minds want to know! ….
You mention some fantastic things in your article. Of them being : ‘Instead of looking for the right words of truth to repeat like a mantra at these times, why not continue by asking the next obvious question: Who can deliver me from this dilemma?”. It is a GREAT question.I mean you would have to admit that it sounds very familiar, no? What if the realities of God were going on in our everyday lives but, because we get hung up on words we do not or have not recognized it?
Getting hung up on words … boy, do I remember that bondage! Having been a soul-winner — that is, an outgoing spokesperson for the heaven-versus-hell gospel message — I came across quite a few challenges regarding some religious word-issues. I’m talking about stuff like making sure you call upon the correct name for the son of God in order to be saved …you know, was “Jesus” really his name or have we settled for the translational error that turned the name of Yashua — which is the Hebrew form, at least as far as is known — into the Greek word meaning “hail Zeus”? That controversy, along with a few others, forced me to wonder if God was really so rigid that he was not able to see the heart because of faulty wording on our part. In case you’re wondering, the verse I’m alluding to is 1 Samuel 16:7.
But the LORD said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at the height of his stature, because I have rejected him; for God sees not as man sees, for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.” 1 Samuel 16:7
Somehow, I think God is able to get past our verbiage. Now, I have no problem when someone sheds light upon some of the changes that have been made over the centuries — especially by the religious system — and I think those who read my stuff know that I’ve discussed numerous such things. However, when an important consideration gets turned into an ultimatum for those who didn’t even know it was an issue in the first place, I’ve got to wonder what they’re up to. You see, this is the very heart of the fleshly religious mind, for it seems to be seeking truth, when all it does is to appeal to a Christ according to the flesh. This is the fleshly mind that stands upon rightness — it’s own rightness, mind you — rather than reality. I’m telling you something that I think you already know and that you just need to hear a corroborating witness to. I mean, when it comes down to it, do you really think that God sent his son into the world so that he could set up a whole new system of protocols and requirements that must be properly learned and implemented in order to be accepted by him? No … our God didn’t change. He still looks upon the heart. It’s the mind of man that continues to look upon appearance. This is the mind that is obsessed with sin. Don’t be fooled just because those who speak according to that mind use Biblical or godly sounding words.
You mentioned the “good” that God was causing in this person’s scenario. Having guilt wear us out does not SEEM Biblical in any way does it? I mean how COULD it when we are so busy attempting to push the reality of God out of our daily existence all the time. Keep them “separate”.
Yet in Pauls example his “crying out” to God who will save me, was the reality of God working in him. This guy you were conversing with WAS experiencing God and didn’t RECOGNIZE it. It’s disguised by that “business as usual mind. That mind that recognizes NOTHING as miraculous and certainly NOTHING as coming from God.[unless iof course in some far distant ambiguous way]
The mind of the flesh can not COPE with there actually being a GOD, a living God. IT MUST MINIMISE AND CONTROL things in a way that keeps it all surpressed and packaged. It must doubt, in other words.
I’m glad you’re wanting to dig into this, because (as you’ve said) we’ve learned an awful lot about God from those who may not even know him. Think about that, my friends, and consider that as the mind of man cannot understand God, what we learned about him according to that mind has nothing whatsoever to do with HIM, even though it comes across as if it does. Because the mentality of fleshly religion has no real understanding of the God it professes, it has to fit him in to the overall consciousness of life. This is the heart of the separation that Adam has referred to. The mind of man can perceive a concept of God, but it has to put that concept in its place, for the religious mind (especially seen in the religious system) won’t tolerate anyone who ventures outside the lines because it creates a conflict that cannot be resolved. Of course, just because someone goes outside the lines, may only suggest that one religious system conflicts with another. True life, that which is found only in Christ, is rejected by all of man’s imaginations and perceptions.
So, what does all this have to do with an obsessive focus upon sin? Everything. Do you not understand that the very same mind Adam and I have been referring to is what creates the illusion that snags those who have been made whole and alive in Christ? Never forget that how you’ve learned to view these dilemmas in your life have probably been taught to you either by those who have no knowledge of God … or by fellow believers who have been deceived because their hearts were unsuspecting.
Choosing right vs wrong
Using a formula (whether it be a Bible verse, doctrine, mantra, or a prayer) to bring a sense of deliverance
Living in view of the lie