16 Dec 2012

Believing in What We Cannot See

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Who gives us the right or the authority to speak for or about God? Sure, we can quote Scripture or even teach the doctrines of those regarded as authorities in the church, but what do we really know? The world is filled with accusers and doubters who demand: “How can you know what God is thinking…that is, if there even is a God?” For as confident as some of us sound, haven’t all of us also wondered the very same thing? Join Jim and Adam as they discuss Believing in What We Cannot See — considering it in view of Hebrews 11:1 (“Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see”) and Romans 14:23 (“and everything that does not come from faith is sin”)

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Okay so you have exposed all our inner secrets here! lol Thanks Jim for working so hard on these things… hope all will enjoy. Adam
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lol  I told you I was going to add them in!! :)


’..faith is the evidence of things that are not seen.’ I used to understand this in an outward and concept-based way. But it’s clear-cut. Faith is the testimony within us, the proof of the things to which we belong and which belong to us. Coming down to us from the reality of God through the life of Christ Jesus. The fleshly minded person cannot know these things or us in the same way they didn’t knew him, else they would not have killed him.

I also used to understand Paul in view of the fleshly mindset; it caused me great torment. However, coming to the realisation that we cannot not believe I am not greatly encouraged for all of us. - georgi

Meant to say 'I am NOW greatly encouraged' rather than 'I am not'.

You asked for suggestions for audio program. Perhaps mine may be complicated for technical reasons, but it would be nice to introduce guests at times that also partake of the discussions. Peoples from forum, friends, family, commentary section,..

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Well, I know just the person I'll be calling on! Be prepared. :)


Jim, so glad you brought out that faith wasn’t a verb,…putting it on us…..but a noun……making it about Christ….as in Gal 2:20 that reads in the original, Christ lives in me, and what I now live in the flesh, I live by the faith “of” the son. In Romans 1:17and Galatians 3:11, which were taken from Habakkuk 2:4, the Septuagint translates it, The righteous will live out of (as a source) the faithfulness of Me. How truly wonderful, joyous, and restful, when it’s all about Christ. The audio was full of so much that brought joy to my heart, because they always bring us back to Christ being the all of life. Julie
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Julie, it thrills me to hear the joy coming through your words! Thanks for the wonderful encouragement.

Jim :)

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