1 Jan 2001

Self-fulfilling Prayer

Submitted by theshovel
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Mary,

I feel for you in your financial distresses as I can relate well. Didn't you know that God has chosen the poor of this world to be rich in faith? I think you DO know this because you are DEFINITELY rich in faith!!! Funny thing is that the verse you quoted about "have not because I ask not" is taken from James, but so is the verse that I quoted. If you read James in context it should become obvious that the "have not" verse does not describe you at all, but the "rich in faith" verse surely does. :)

Your post adequately describes the self-fulfilling prayer of this woman. She is suggesting that YOU have not because you have not done what SHE has done. It has nothing to do with a real communication to the Father. I say "self-fulfilling" because of the fact that you said the pastors have been passing out copies of this book at church. Well if they have, and the people are reading it and really want to believe that God will answer their "prayer of Jabez" then they will do whatever they can to make the "prayer" work. So it gets announced at church and SHAZAM!! "GOD" starts "answering" the prayer immediately.

The "pastor" at one of my earlier churches used to often talk at prayer meetings about "putting feet to our prayers". If you take away all the religious mumbo-jumbo, it becomes pretty obvious that we were creating "prayers" that would get "answered" by doing them ourselves. It's a real shame that we have so little love going on in our midst without stimulating what should be there anyway by an attempt to help answer our own prayers. In other words, if money can answer the bulk of my prayers (and a good doctor the rest) then what do I need to communicate with God about? Duh.

Another thing to consider is the possibly that maybe this woman needs a financial crisis to cause her to see her true riches, but has had it put on hold until the next time. Just a thought, I don't know.

If I got that book and prayed it whatever prayer it is, will God give me the money I need? Do I even want that money? Mary

See? You really DO know, don't you? :)

Jim

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       My beloved brother Jim , I am expediently "digging" the riches of grace!!! It moves my heart that we

shared some quality time (looong overdue) and some greatly appreciated fellowship.This new website is awe-

some!I HAVE FANTASTIC RICHES IN 0UR FRIENDSHIP , OUR LOVE ONE TOWARD ANOTHER AND THE ONE

TRUE HERO WHO IS NO LONGER ON THE HILL!!!!!!!AMEN! I really need to catch up on modern technology,but

frantically plugging along one key at a time I can still get there,albeit not quite as expediently as I can think it.

       It occurs to me that my life is hid in Christ - (THE GREATEST TREASURE OF ALL! ) .  What cause have I

to grumble about petty things like money or finances or anything of this world ? I know that I am seated in the

heavenly places with Christ Jesus and this positional truth is NOW! Yes, it is lovely to think of living in heaven to

ever be in the presence of THE TRUE & LIVING GOD, but God's got plans for me in the here and now!Jesus

isn't concerned with ability or my lack of it- only my AVAILABILITY.Can you imagine telling the Lord of All

Creation ,"Excuse me,I am really to busy to have time to listen to you right now." ?????? Absurd !!!! I know I am guilty

of doing exactly that , everytime I place my own selfish , self-centered desires ahead of my availability to the Lord.

P.S. Happy Belated Birthday Mandy!!!! Love ya bro ! God Bless(Tetelestei !!!!!!!!!)

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Thanks for popping in, Greg! It was great to spend some time with you yesterday. Thanks for making the drive over.

Indeed! Riches in Christ Jesus, and we are hid in him.

I'll pass on your birthday greeting. :)

Jim

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